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I've been thinking about the Fediverse for a looooong time, since before it was called the Fediverse. I'll admit my thinking hasn't evolved much for much of that time. The basic structure of it has been clear for nearly 15 years.

But today (so far - it's only 8:30 AM here!) I've learned *three* new perspectives that have changed/improved the way I think about the Fediverse/Mastodon in subtle but important ways.

So. Much. Gratitude. πŸ™β€οΈ

in reply to blaine

TIL🧡3/3: I shared my belief that email addresses have been successful as a format for online social identities because of a very long historical, verging on biological precedent. I used an example that I've used for over a decade, that "Jesus of Nazareth" is essentially an email address.
in reply to blaine

Several folks chimed in with something that's obvious in retrospect but I'll sheepishly admit had never occurred to me (or, if it had, I'd long since forgotten): many surnames work *explicitly* this way. The "von"/"van" suffix in Germanic communities, "de" in French, and "da" in Italian, to name but a few.

Many other naming traditions work effectively this way, too. There are far too many to list here, but Wikipedia has a reasonably complete compendium: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_…

in reply to blaine

I've been thinking a lot about naming lately, and allowed myself to go down the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal… rabbit hole. This sentence in particular jumped out at me as relevant to the current moment:

"It is nearly universal for people to have names; the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child declares that a child has the right to a name from birth."

in reply to blaine

We need to guarantee the right to names online, and we need to do so in a way that gives people the ability to self-identify, apart from corporate control. Without the ability to control it, a URL, especially one that you don't own (like "twitter.com/blaine") isn't a name. It's an identifier, like a brand on cattle. Okay, that might be a little extreme, but it's not a name in the UN CRC sense of the word.
in reply to blaine

Or, as we in the identiverse call it, an attribute. Just like your name, address etc. They are all attributes that point to your identity but don't originally define it.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

I've also been working on this for many years now, but even though I am a programmer at times, we are more looking at this from a human rights/democracy perspective.

Just as federation is not the final form of decentralisation, self-sovereignty isn't the final form of identity ownership.

Ultimately full identity ownership must become a fundamental human right, when you go really deep down the rabbit hole. That's what I'm working on. Working title: TCP/ID :)

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in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

as an intermediary approach one could think about a system around self-Attestation with an additional authorities β€œstamp” of approval etc. Oh. And none of that needs blockchain :)
in reply to blaine

More than happy to discuss this super important topic in depth so we can learn from each other. I see how the VC gang is already seeing identity as the next big business thing. But I won’t accept that. It’s such a fundamental thing that it MUST be open. Shared. Free of patents etc. identity ownership is a right, not a business plan.
in reply to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

And yes, it’s also fun. We have been producing identity cards since many years and I’ve actually crossed borders with it.
in reply to blaine

Since a number of folks asked what I learned yesterday, I wanted to pick this back up and share with the community that's giving me so much right now. So, a few brief threads (apologies to folks who don't like threads) of things I learned on the Fediverse yesterday: 🧡🧡🧡🧢🐈
in reply to blaine

TIL🧡1/3: @shengokai's posts (twitter.com/shengokai/status/1…) are a masterpiece. I'm not sure there's one lesson; just YES.

I personally hope that his critiques can be addressed by oppressed communities, for oppressed communities within the wider framework of the fediverse.

THAT SAID, these sorts of writings are exactly what we need, and I will be thinking a lot about what he's written, and I hope that Fediverse implementors and participants are, too, as we collectively construct these spaces.

in reply to blaine

I want to be clear that @shengokai has acknowledged that many PoC/queer/disabled/ND folks have learned to thrive within the constructs of Mastodon (the software), and I don't think he intends to erase any of that community or work, and in boosting his voice I want to acknowledge and honour the anti-hegemonic communities that have done the work and created spaces here in the 'verse.
in reply to blaine

But, wow, do I wish I had his threads to hand out in the early days of creating the protocols that underly this stuff. Best statement of user needs, ever. Thanks, @shengokai πŸ™
in reply to blaine

TIL🧡2/3: Many have said it, I'm going to say it, too: I miss Quote Tweets. I appreciate the thoughtful justification for not implementing them, but also disagree. My ideal would be

a quote tweet that points up 😍☝️
rather than Twitter's pointing down πŸ€¬πŸ‘‡

because I think sometimes it's really important to contextualize or emphasize why you're boosting someone's post.

in reply to blaine

I think Quotations are coming, and I hope and believe that ultimately, the call isn't @Gargron's alone to make. @scottjenson has been advocating for designers & UX folk to take part, and I hope that structures emerge to make that not just possible, but pervasive.

In the meantime, @amirouche pointed me at this lovely pattern:
social.hyper.dev/@amirouche/10…

in reply to blaine

Basically, instead of QTing something, on Mastodon it's possible to reply to a post and then boost your reply.

That way, the visibility is the same as a Quote would have been, but with the interesting property that the OP doesn't get silenced/steamrolled, but the original post is still easily visible. More conversational, less adversarial.

in reply to blaine

Even if/when we get formal QTs, I like this pattern and will be using it where appropriate (it would be great to have a one-click mode and a name for this – does one exist? Any ideas?)

Thanks, @amirouche πŸ™

in reply to blaine

@blaine Isn't this what tumblr-style reblogs are? Your text is below the responded-to text, the latter scrolls into view first so you won't use it on things you disagree with a lot, because your followers will see it first as if you shared it normally, before they see your reply. This re-share+reply appears on your feed the same as your OPs or normal re-shares, without extra button clicks. I miss tumblr...(*)

As far as I know there are no verbs in ActivityPub / ActivityStream to model this properly...

(*) each time I try it again, I'm reminded how broken the software is and why I left...

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in reply to blaine

I use quote tweets a fair bit. I pick them when I want to encourage my readers to follow the quote and I think saying what I appreciate from it will do more than a simple RT. For this it's valuable that the quoted tweet be immediately visible so the reader is more likely to click on it.
in reply to Martin Fowler

@mfowler Yeah. I immediately missed quote tweets when I moved over. I get the rationale for not having as it was explained to me, but I still think it is a useful function. I’ve seen suggestions of requiring assent from the person quoted. That seems interesting but still abusable. I may try the reply/self-boost method and see how that feels.
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