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Only 10 #activityPub projects have more than 10k users.

Most new projects struggle with getting attention and visibility.

I think bigger projects should play a more pro-active role in acknowledging, and if possible, mentoring new/smaller projects.
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dansup
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Ever since I started Pixelfed, I've felt like this.

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/100286471445959631

dansup (@dansup@mastodon.social)

If you know anyone working on an ActivityPub project and they need any advice/feedback/help or want to spread the word, tell them to DM me! I am more than willing to help or spread awareness! #activitypub #fediverse
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Anubis2814
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Just recently fallen in love with Pixelfed now that the networks are connected and discover goes beyond your own instance. I'm so looking forward to seeing what you do with it in the future.
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marius
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what big projects can do to foster smaller ones is sticking as close as possible to the ActivityPub spec. If not in the activities they produce, at least in the ones they receive.

The biggest problem I see at the moment is that every project is trying to implement the mistakes Mastodon made.
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Gidi Kroon
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@Marius Orcsik this may or may not be what you mean, but my biggest gripe: ActivityPub is html by default yet here we are, all typing text only tweets.
@marius

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marius
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that's only partly true. An AP object can have a Source property where the client can encode the original format for the Content. I use it to pass the original markdown users input, so clients that might want to implement their own rendering can do so.
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Bob Mottram :debian:
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Well I don't need to be mentored by Gargron, but it would be nice to know why my avatar doesn't show up on his system, despite following the ActivityPub protocol. #Epicyon
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hamish campbell
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linking is good, we should make it a strong tradition in #4opens #openweb projects :)
#openweb #4opens
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marius
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sorry, maybe I was a bit harsh. What I meant by "mistakes" are just the idiosyncrasies of Mastodon. Some of the things that I know of and people usually try to emulate are: webfinger for actor discovery, treating all objects as being of type Note (as far as I know there's no graceful fallback for types Mastodon doesn't use natively), local caching of all objects and media, etc.
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marius
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to further answer your question: I don't know if anyone ever compiled a list of these.
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Media caching is fine and a service to the community as long as one keeps in mind that cache invalidation is one of the Two Difficult Things.
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marius
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honestly I disagree with this as a general rule if your job is not to be a cache or a proxy. I would maybe agree for a service that obeys the caching mechanisms of HTTP, but probably not even then.
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Matt Baer
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Great point. Any smaller / upcoming ones you can think of that could use more visibility?
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dansup
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Bonfire, GotoSocial, Bookwyrm are a few off the top of my head.

Still need to add a few to https://fedidb.org/software

FediDB - Developer Tools for ActivityPub

Developer Tools for ActivityPub
fedidb.org
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Anubis2814
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Bonfire looks really interesting and something I hope can be as good as they are hoping.
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Strypey
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> Only 10 #activityPub projects have more than 10k users.

Which 10? Are there more than 10 that are have AP federation fully functional?
#activitypub
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Gidi Kroon
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I assume these ten:
Fedidb screenshot, listing Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed, Pleroma, WriteFreely, Lemmy, Juick, Plume, Friendica, GNU Social

judging by https://fedidb.org/software . Though I don't know how useful these numbers are. E.g. Juick I hadn't heard of before, claims to have 18k users in total on just one server, but only 1k of those have done anything the last six months. There are more functional Activitypub implementations on that page though.

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Anubis2814
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Friendica uses PHP not activitypub, pretty sure the same is true for gnusocial
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Anubis2814
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juick appears to be a mostly Russian platform from the looks of it, as I can't find squat about it in English.
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Tykayn
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True that, but it is hard to maintain all and take the time to discover thé rest. (most libre project are entirely held alive by more or less one people)

time to put some light on worthy things, like
#commonpub
#mobilizon
#bonfire
i also want to see more spot light on bridges made with the fediverse and ways to help regular people move in, not only beard white cis guys with free time, money, and tech literacy
#mobilizon #bonfire #commonpub
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Anubis2814
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@dansup Is anyone working on a ticktock alternative? Sort of like a hybrid of peertube and pixelfed? Or is pixelfed hoping to fill that space?
@dansup
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