@nilsskirnir They do. mastodon.ar.al/@aral/114204928…

Aral Balkan

2025-03-22 07:35:06

Here’s a fact: the corporate/neoliberal Democrats are more afraid of AOC and Bernie than they are of Trump. Fascism may not be their first choice but it’s preferable to what those two promise for them. They already sabotaged Bernie once – just like Starmer and co. sabotaged Corbyn in the UK – and they’ll continue to do anything and everything to try and scupper their progress. Even if it means more fascism. The ones doing this are as responsible for fascism as Trump is and they’re not your friends. mastodon.social/@Bellison22/11…

Oh that's sad lol. I had no idea how pathetically small protests were in the US. That's laughable for a city of apparently over 700.000 inhabitants.

Americans post about "fascism is here! we need to resist!" all day long and then they really think they're done resisting with that social media post, huh.

For comparison, last year the anti-right wing protests just in Düsseldorf, a city of ~600.000, were over 100.000 people. And the alt-right party isn't even in power here.

it is a promising start but the only way #usa is going to change the course of the country, is by putting 10 milion protesters on the ground in DC.

Good luck!

@nilsskirnir @mls14 @rzeta0
Read in my newspaper this week:

When Obama won his first term, the Republicans were in the same kind of inner turmoil as the Democrats are now. "What did we do wrong" turning into "who's to blame" and then the Tea Party emerged.

I like Bernie and AOC, I see them as *normal*, good social-democrats, the kind we have here in Europe. Whereas in the US, "liberal" is a swear word and red scare is never far away.

#eattherich

@mls14 @rzeta0
Golly. Almost expect a note blaming #Hillary! loss on #Bernie

Be serious.

@nilsskirnir @rzeta0 I’m being a LOT more serious than people trying to foment division between AOC and the rest of the party when it’s clear this is a moment to come together.

The story linked had nothing to do with some past grievance that some older people seem to still have with the DNC. It is not “finally Bernie will take over and show those mean old Dems!”

It is a feel-good story of people joining together to fight Trump. And yet I see all the pointless division added in by these comments. To me that feels like a crappy thing to do in this moment.

Read my initial comment. All it asked for was for people to pull together, and I got so much negativity for it!

@mls14 @nilsskirnir
Nils makes a valid point.

The DNC has acted against these two on multiple occasions.

The DNC doesn't passively hate them.
They proactively undermine them.

Because the DNC is owned by the same people who own the GOP. Billionaires.

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If you want to beat Trump, you need a compelling alternative.

You can't ask people to vote Dem just because they're not trump. How did that work out in 2024?

@nilsskirnir The “DNC” doesn’t hate members of its own party.

The enemy is Trump. Why don’t we all focus on that instead of worrying about who likes or dislikes whom among the resistance?

@mls14 @efialto @nilsskirnir
You are confidently wrong.

Voting for the democrats as they are will not improve the situation overall.

There is no incentive for them to change.

So different action needs to be taken.

It could be mass denial of vote and support for new political movements - which won't produce a new gov soon, but neither will voting Dem.

Or it could be tough action on the Dems to clean them out.

There is no option that avoids a trump government in the short term.

@efialto @nilsskirnir @rzeta0 There seems to be a disconnect here, and I think I am figuring it out.

The Americans on this thread can at least agree that we need to come together in this moment, and leave inter-party squabbles in the past.

Those outside the US seem to think differently. I assume you all have good intentions, but it occurs to me that our different systems of government are causing you some confusion.

In the parliamentary system, if you have a far-left party, you can vote for them. They might win a few seats, and those representatives will form a coalition government with the more moderate left party. More far-left seats means those ideas get a bigger voice in the coalition.

In the US, that’s not an option. There are two options. Period. So turning Democrats against each other is harmful to the country, as it empowers the Republicans, who have turned into the party of Nazis.

@rzeta0 @mls14
Great points and thanks

The old adage that if you give folks a choice between #Repuke and #RepukeLite, they’ll choose Repuke almost every time.

@mls14 @davbram @nilsskirnir
Again, confidently wrong.

Many of us outside the USA ave been following US politics for decades.

Why?

Because it is the wider world that suffers from what the USA does.

Some of us have noticed your attempt to diminish the democrat's facilitating a genocide...

@mls14@vivaldi.net @davbram @nilsskirnir @Bellison22

Many people like me could never vote for anyone who covers for genocide.

That is step 1 for the democrats.

Disown Israel, impose sanctions, drag Netanyahu to the ICC, and physically disarm that genocidal apartheid war criminal state. Enforce UN resolutions.

Or do the democrats stands for double standards in international and domestic law?

@davbram @nilsskirnir @rzeta0 Yes, you are part of the solution. We might not have all gotten the candidate we wanted from our party. But we know, for the good of the country, we come together to oppose Nazis.

I disagree with you strongly on multiple aspects of your opinion of Harris, but we can work together because we both know it’s about never ever letting the GOP get a majority again.

1. People gathering, to listen to politicians.
2. Politicians delivering speeches.
3. Politicians telling people to vote for Democrats, in 2026.

That's it.

That's the plan "to take on billionaires and win our country back", while some 80 #DOGE crooks with laptops continue with dismantling the US, this very moment, day by day.

#USpol #elections #Sanders #AOC