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Yeah, Mastodon's Unlisted is such a misnomer. My biggest gripe with it is that it mainly means "unsearchable".

And you can't really change that on a server, since that would mean that people who did mean "unsearchable" when they chose "unlisted", suddenly find their posts showing up in searches without their consent...

Friendica meanwhile shows threads as threads, but without the collapsing which would be very useful.


That's an urban legend, alas. While that *would* be a great way to make "unlisted" work, that's absolutely, positively, 100% *not* how "unlisted" works.

More here, including how to manage threads in your timeline:

pluralistic.net/2023/04/16/how…


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in reply to Gidi Kroon

@pluralistic mastodon needs to stop making such stupid decisions. Unlisted only means "not addressed TO the public, only CC the public so it is not published in timelines"

They're still searchable in Pleroma

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in reply to feld

@feld @pluralistic I wonder if this is a legacy decision, left over from the time before Mastodon implemented ActivityPub support and had better control through the Mastodon API.
in reply to Ben Ramsey

@ramsey @pluralistic Mastodon has a history of using its popularity to unilaterally control the direction of the Fediverse. If a new spec is proposed that Mastodon doesn't care for, it gets killed. If Mastodon wants to change the rules about how something works, now everyone is forced to accept it or things break.

e.g., There is no such thing as a "Content Warning"; that is the subject field in ActivityPub but Mastodon abused it for another purpose and now we all have to treat it that way. It is probably the perfect field for something like Lemmy to be using as the subject for a thread, but nope -- it's a content warning so they had to invent the title of a post being some <p><a> HTML on the first line of the message body.

Gargon pretends to be a supporter of an permissive, interoperable, federated ecosystem shaped by open democratic processes but in reality all he cares about is what is good for "Mastodon the project".